#Genchat January 15 2014 – Research across the Pond

Another #genchat – learning about other’s experience in researching overseas

imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 6:20am via TweetCaster for Android

What’s keeping you from researching #genealogyabroad? Share ideas today on #genchat. 3pm central
imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 6:35am via TweetCaster for Android

RT @ancestry: Gazetteers can help you learn more about where your ancestor lived—start browsing: ancstry.me/1a7JxSR #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:00am via TweetDeck

Here we go! #genchat : geography today is all about starting the process of researching abroad.#genealogy
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:01am via TweetDeck

In this sense, “international” means crossing any boundary. I hope it’s not to US centric. #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:01am via TweetDeck

Q1: Have you researched “international”#genealogy before? #genchat

imagefamberrytreeJan 16, 8:08am via Twitter for iPhone

A1. The national archives in the UK is the best place to start for UK ancestry. Parishregister.co.ukis also good pre-census.#genchat
imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:14am via Web

@ConfKeep A1 Yes, started #genealogy research with my Scottish folks, have since also done lots of English & bit in German records. #genchat

lizl_genealogy

lizl_genealogy: @ConfKeep A1 Yes, started #genealogy research with my Scottish folks, have since also done lots of English & bit in German records. #genchat

imageBarbFFmJan 16, 8:05am via Web

A1: and now I help others with their research in Germany #genchat
imageBarbFFmJan 16, 8:05am via Web

A1: and I just start to resarch in the US and Australia #genchat

imageannroyal58Jan 16, 8:16am via Web

#genchat Wow things move fast. A1 Yep. Ireland, England, Germany couldn’t find
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:04am via TweetDeck

Q2: What is most intimidating about “crossing the pond?” #genchat
imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:05am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2 Not finding research aids to help with finding data in old films, etc #genchat
imageJenBookChickJan 16, 8:06am via Web

A 2 I worry about name changes, and just not being as familiar with locations over there.#genchat

DapperHistorianDapperHistorian: @ConfKeep A2: Speaking from the “other side of the pond”, language, handwriting and new record types can confuse us all! #genchat8:06am, Jan 16 from Web

imagebetsympls612Jan 16, 8:07am via Tweetbot for Mac

A2: I think the most intmdtg thing is not understanding how each country keeps/kept records and sometimes where to even start!#genchat
imageBarbFFmJan 16, 8:07am via Web

A2: not knowing my way around. and not being able to “pass by” the archive #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:07am via TweetDeck

@dreagan15 Good point. Not knowing the reliable sources from the garbage. #genchat A2
imageone_descendantJan 16, 8:07am via Twitter for iPhone

#genchat A2 – My research lead to joining a society. Proving the line to a UK group was the most intimidating part. Great folks, though!
imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:08am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2: For me, I think its language and political border changes. Hard to keep track if you aren’t as familiar w/history #genchat A2
imageDapperHistorianJan 16, 8:08am via Web

@ConfKeep Vital records kept on a state rather than national level can be difficult to keep track of! If only you had a GRO! #genchat

ConfKeep

ConfKeep: @DapperHistorian What about when you research on this side? Anything that sticks out as difficult? #genchat8:07am, Jan 16 from TweetDeck

DapperHistorianDapperHistorian: @ConfKeep Vital records kept on a state rather than national level can be difficult to keep track of! If only you had a GRO! #genchat
imageAncestorQuestJan 16, 8:09am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2 cont. Understanding the English system of counties, civil parishes, ecclesiastical parishes, reg district, etc. is a challenge #genchat
imageherodotusjrJan 16, 8:09am via TweetDeck

You and everyone else. RT @GenealogyGirl: A2 From a UK perspective I find the different records & access rules in the US confusing! #genchat
imagefamilytreeblogJan 16, 8:09am via TweetDeck

@AncestorQuest Sorry meant to tweet from this one: A2 – Are the sources trusted or is a site just trying to make a quick buck. #genchat

 

GenealogyGirl

GenealogyGirl: A2 From a UK perspective I find the different records & access rules in the US confusing! #genchat8:09am, Jan 16 from HootSuite

GenealogyGirlGenealogyGirl: A2 (cont.) I mean it’s confusing that each US state has different rules #genchat
imagebetsympls612Jan 16, 8:12am via Tweetbot for Mac

BTW – thanks to all of you who suggested using Evernote for notes/goals with #genealogy. Started and I LOVE it. #tips #genchat
TribalWoman

TribalWoman: Hello Everyone #genchat8:10am, Jan 16 from TweetChat powered by oneQube

 

imagefamilytreeblogJan 16, 8:14am via TweetDeck

@famberrytree @famberrytree Can’t forget the loss of the 1890 United States Census. I think St. Louis documents survived though. #genchat
imagefamberrytreeJan 16, 8:14am via Mobile Web (M5)

A2. Another issue is that borders have changed over the centuries, esp. In Europe, you need to know your geography.
#genchat
imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:16am via Web

@ConfKeep A2 For me, usually esp. learning new record sets, new legal system, & new locations for where records are kept.#genchat #genealogy

imageJenBookChickJan 16, 8:16am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Yay! RT @LatvianRoots Many European archives, especially E-Europe, have free access to digital records! No need to go to FHC! #genchat

LatvianRoots

LatvianRoots: Many European archives, especially E-Europe, have free access to digital records! No need to go to FHC! #genchat8:16am, Jan 16 from tchat.io

imageLatvianRootsJan 16, 8:20am via tchat.io

When going to foreign archives, be ready to deal with different cultural expectations, sometimes archivists don’t understand..(1/2) #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:12am via TweetDeck

A3: How do you start the process? Who do you reach out to first? #genchat
imagebetsympls612Jan 16, 8:13am via Tweetbot for Mac

A3: Start the international process? #genchat
imageJenBookChickJan 16, 8:13am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3 Have not really “reached out” other than checking international records on familiar sites.#genchat
imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:13am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Please re-phrase Q3 “Reach out” sounds like an old telephone commerical 😛 #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:14am via TweetDeck

Q3: How and where do you start? Who do you ask for help? #genchat
imageAncestorQuestJan 16, 8:14am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3: Started with county level societies but have had most success with National Archives & with GRO #genchat
imagecatekunziJan 16, 8:14am via Web

@ConfKeep A3 I try to find out everything I can re: their entry to the US -if poss. Social media=great for asking specialists too! #genchat

imageBarbFFmJan 16, 8:15am via Web

A3: when searching internationally? I start with communities or mailing lists. ask other researchers for help #genchat

imagekmjordan73Jan 16, 8:15am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA3: Immigration records in the destination country and emigration records in the outgoing country to pinpoint location of origin. #genchat

imageRTGenealogyJan 16, 8:15am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3 When I 1st jumped the pond I coordinated with new found cousins. Then jumped a plane, a train and went to the town historian #genchat

imageSallyOnTheGoJan 16, 8:15am via tchat.ioA3 Use internet to find old maps, gazetteers, then LDS library aides to order films. Trial and error until I found family. #genchat
imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:16am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3 How depends WHAT you are trying to prove. WHERE depends if you still have family or friends still living there. (cont’d) #genchat
imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:18am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3: Attending conferences exposes me to the “big players” in areas of interest. #genchat

imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:18am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA3: Ireading through collections on sites like findmypast to get idea of what is generally available. #genchat findmypast.com

imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:18am via Web@ConfKeep A3 For me it depends completely on the location. How foreign is it to my current knowledge base? #genchat #genealogy


lizl_genealogylizl_genealogy: @ConfKeep A3 For me it depends completely on the location. How foreign is it to my current knowledge base?#genchat #genealogy8:18am, Jan 16 from Web

leprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:20am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3 contact local history and #genealogy societies, many have hidden treasures! Found picture c.1928 of cousin’s medical practice #genchat
imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:21am via Web

@DapperHistorian And every state has its own privacy laws, and many states change them, & often staff don’t know the laws well. #genchat

ConfKeepConfKeep: @DapperHistorian What about when you research on this side? Anything that sticks out as difficult? #genchat8:07am, Jan 16 from TweetDeck

DapperHistorianDapperHistorian: @ConfKeep Vital records kept on a state rather than national level can be difficult to keep track of! If only you had a GRO! #genchat8:08am, Jan 16 from Web

betsympls612Jan 16, 8:21am via Tweetbot for Mac

A3: I guess I am in the “big” search process right now with FamilySearch/Ancestry etc. Will get small eventually with other rsrcs. #genchat

imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:20am via TweetDeck

Q4: What do you do to learn about and understand the area you want to research?#genchat #genealogy
imageJenBookChickJan 16, 8:20am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A4 Check out library books, search for maps from the appropriate time period, check for important historical events… #genchat
imagekmjordan73Jan 16, 8:20am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A4: FamilySearch wiki, FB and G+ genealogy groups for the location #genchat
imagealhupartuJan 16, 8:21am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A4 local historical societies, library, google search to start. #genchat
imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:22am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Question for those outside the US: do you find there is a negative view of “genealogist” vs “researcher”??? #genchat

imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:22am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA4 Again, the local societies can bring everything into perspective. Their libraries are often not digitized or online #genchat
imageMelTafaroJan 16, 8:22am via Twitter for iPad

@ConfKeep A4: read some history & this may sound stupid but I watch shows like House Hunters International & travel shows #genchat

imageBarbFFmJan 16, 8:22am via Web

A4: surfing through g+ communities, societies, archive websites, look left and right #genchat

imageDapperHistorianJan 16, 8:22am via Web@ConfKeep Print a map of the local area and keep it next to you, you’ll get familiar with the area and may spot hidden links! #genchat

DapperHistorianDapperHistorian: @ConfKeep Print a map of the local area and keep it next to you, you’ll get familiar with the area and may spot hidden links! #genchat8:22am, Jan 16 from Web
imagekmjordan73Jan 16, 8:22am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

@MelTafaro @ConfKeep Since I have Swedish ancestors, I’ve been watching Allt for Sverige on You Tube – very useful! #genchat

imageone_descendantJan 16, 8:23am via Twitter for iPhone

#genchat A4 – read, read, read. Understand sources. Follow the work of other genealogists – following their trail to their sources.

imageannroyal58Jan 16, 8:23am via Web#genchat A4 I find the guides from Family Search and @ancestry and then I seek other experts in the area.

imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:23am via TweetDeck

FYI, if you care to share links, please do so. Anything relevant to the convo is encouraged!#genchat #genealogy
imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:24am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

@DapperHistorian We do have some bias here… it’s often better to say “I’m a researcher” vs genealogist. #genchat

DapperHistorian

DapperHistorian: @ancestryjourney I’ve never seen bias towards or against genealogy. You only have to explain its nothing to do with rocks #genchat8:23am, Jan 16 from Web

 

famberrytreeJan 16, 8:24am via Mobile Web (M5)

A4. Draw maps, build the family tree from wills, piece together profile of each family member.
#genchat
imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:24am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

@MelTafaro @ConfKeep I firmly believe there are many hidden resources in #genealogy, our creativity is our only limit! #genchat

ancestryjourney

ancestryjourney: @MelTafaro@ConfKeep Actually, I think that’s quite genius.#genchat8:22am, Jan 16 from TweetChat powered by oneQube

ConfKeepJan 16, 8:27am via TweetDeck

Q5: For those that have conducted international research, what are your top suggestions?#genchat #genealogy

imagekmjordan73Jan 16, 8:28am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A5: Use those language cheat sheets on the FS Wiki – you’ll learn the most common genealogy terms in short order. #genchat
ConfKeep

ConfKeepFYI, if you care to share links, please do so. Anything relevant to the convo is encouraged! #genchat #genealogy8:23am, Jan 16 from TweetDeck

lizl_genealogy: @ConfKeep One of my favorite sites for Canadian research is Our Roots: #Canada‘s Local Histories Online.http://t.co/cIv1vQaQxI #genchat8:25am, Jan 16 from Web

AncestorQuest: @lizl_genealogy@ConfKeep Our Roots is excellent!http://t.co/bwmT6LeeHy #genchat8:26am, Jan 16 from TweetChat powered by oneQube

SallyOnTheGoJan 16, 8:26am via tchat.io

German <-> Polish villages goo.gl/YhpBuA#genchat

lizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:28am via Web

@ConfKeep For those researching historical West & East Prussia, this Gazetteer is a good starting point:progenealogists.com/germany/prussi… #genchat

imageLatvianRootsJan 16, 8:28am via tchat.ioA5: Don’t be afraid of new languages! That’s usually the easiest part, when you get right down to it! #genchat

imageBevno59Jan 16, 8:46am via Twubs

a5 OPC’s are very helpful in UK #genchat

imageDapperHistorianJan 16, 8:29am via Web

@ConfKeep A5: Make friends with a local expert, learn what you can about the history of where you are looking. #genchat

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imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:31am via Web

@ConfKeep A5 Save yourself a lot of time by doing some reading about the laws, record types, etc., before you plunge into research. #genchat

imageGenealogyGirlJan 16, 8:30am via HootSuite

A5 Realise that you need to educate yourself again as if you are a beginner. Don’t presume things are the same in another country #genchat

imageDutchGenJan 16, 9:10am via HootSuite

@ConfKeep A5: When researching immigrants, always exhaust the sources where they settled before trying to find them in old country. #genchat

imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:30am via TweetDeckFamilySearch Wiki has a “Browse by Country” page for articles to assist with specifics:familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/… #genchat@FamilySearch
imagefamberrytreeJan 16, 8:34am via Mobile Web (M5)

A5. Share your research with your extended family, they will know more about a country they live in than you.
#genchat

imageBarbFFmJan 16, 8:32am via Web

A5: yes,network! btw.. not only for international research. #genchat

imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:33am via Twitter for iPhone

A5 Keep a detailed chart re: work/info wanted; incl date, contact person, and relative’s name being researched #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:33am via TweetDeck

Q6: Does your country have a “go-to” resource for getting started? #genchat (Share the link you like best!)
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:37am via TweetDeck

@MelTafaro Just whatever you think is the best place for someone outside of country to start with.#genchat

imageGenealogyGirlJan 16, 8:38am via HootSuite

A6 for Scotland the top online resource is undoubtedly @ScotlandsPeople #genchat

imagefamberrytreeJan 16, 8:37am via Mobile Web (M5)

In the UK the @BBC has some good links for beginners bbc.co.uk/history/0/2349…
#genchat
imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:39am via Web

@ConfKeep A6 I recommend starting US research w/reading some of our National Archives’ many free materials: archives.gov#genchat

imageannroyal58Jan 16, 8:38am via Web#genchat A6 For Ireland, John P O’Connor onMassLive.com John is a great resource and even though he is retired, he still helps.

imageannroyal58Jan 16, 8:49am via Web@ancestryjourney #genchat I have been connecting on LinkedIn with a ton of people from around the world. Eneclann in Ireland is very good.

imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:36am via TweetDeck

Q7: Share your most amazing experience reaching across int’l borders. #genchat#genealogy
imageLatvianRootsJan 16, 8:37am via tchat.io

A7: Serendipitous encounter with an unknown elderly relative in a cemetery – she gave me all of the family photos! (1/2) #genchat

imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:39am via Twitter for iPhone

@ConfKeep A7 Found a distant cousin 5min walk fm church where grt grds were married. She sent their big purple marriage cert to me! #genchat


imageLatvianRootsJan 16, 8:39am via tchat.io@ancestryjourney Transcribed? Wow! I have a great-great-aunt’s WW1 diary, but doing the transcription myself! #genchat

imagecatekunziJan 16, 8:40am via Web

A7: Wonderful 2-hr Skype call w/ a member of Northumberland (England)’s genealogical society… 100s of yrs of info.. #genchat

imageRTGenealogyJan 16, 8:40am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A7 Arriving to the orig town was like a personal celeb experience. The town prepared for my visit as much as I had…#genchat

imageRTGenealogyJan 16, 8:41am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A7 … they had stories, sketches and personal guides for my family. The whole village not just the historians ….#genchat

imageDapperHistorianJan 16, 8:41am via Web@ConfKeep The best experience crossing borders? Reuniting these people after a lifetime apart #genchat pic.twitter.com/sLCgb1n1kt

imageLindaSchreiber1Jan 16, 8:42am via Twubs

My luckiest was bumping into the relative in Montreal who was a ONS guy for my mystery surname 🙂 #genchat

imageRTGenealogyJan 16, 8:42am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA7 … I met many new cousins that way and are closer than ever now. Was an honor to know the family name was so respected #genchat

imageAncestorQuestJan 16, 8:41am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA7: Got copy of grandfather’s Royal Navy record from National Archives — found out the family story he’d “jumped ship” was true 🙂 #genchat

imageLindaSchreiber1Jan 16, 8:42am via Twubs

My luckiest was bumping into the relative in Montreal who was a ONS guy for my mystery surname 🙂 #genchat

imageDapperHistorianJan 16, 8:43am via Web

@ancestryjourney @ConfKeep I shall be meeting my new great aunt myself right after rootstech in NJ on my way back from SLC! #genchat

imageBevno59Jan 16, 8:44am via Twubs

A& having an Italian cousin come here to visit and connecting him with family #genchat

famberrytreefamberrytree: A7. Finding my Dad’s brother in the US. They had never met or knew about each other until they were connected by research. #genchat8:43am, Jan 16 from Mobile Web (M5)

ConfKeep: @famberrytree Wow. Just wow.#genchat8:43am, Jan 16 from TweetDeck

famberrytreefamberrytree: @ConfKeep Now they keep in contact all the time #genchat

imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:44am via TweetDeck

Q8: Here’s your chance. What is your #1 question re: international research? #genchat #genealogy
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:46am via TweetDeck

(Q8: This is also your chance to connect w/each other for help!) #genchat
imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:49am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A8a “When” you can afford it. “How & Who?” Get referral from others who have used them.#genchat

imageancestryjourneyJan 16, 8:48am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA8: My question: how do you know when to hire a pro in another country and how do you find them? Who is reliable? #genchat

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imagekmjordan73Jan 16, 8:46am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeLOL!! RT @SallyOnTheGo A8 #wishlist Can Ireland please be less intimidating? #genchat
imageannroyal58Jan 16, 8:47am via Web

#genchat I am trying to learn more about Irish and German. I can offer expertise in New England and Canada/French Canada

imageannroyal58Jan 16, 8:49am via Web

@ancestryjourney #genchat I have been connecting on LinkedIn with a ton of people from around the world. Eneclann in Ireland is very good

imageLindaSchreiber1Jan 16, 8:50am via Twubs

A8: Archives/Libraries of at least a couple of countries offer lists of researchers. Place to start.#genchat

imageRTGenealogyJan 16, 8:53am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A8 Local family history societies keep lists of researchers in a lot of places. #genchat

imageRTGenealogyJan 16, 8:51am via TweetChat powered by oneQubeA8 Some researchers register with other countries for their own. Such as the APG list in the USA showing UK researchers. #genchat

imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:51am via Web@ancestryjourney Ask for recommendations. Also there are int’l members of APG & a # of other countries have similar organizations. #genchat
imageConfKeepJan 16, 8:54am via TweetDeck

Just a couple more minutes. Don’t forget, the schedule is always available:conferencekeeper.net/genchat-2014.h…#genchat #genealogy
imageone_descendantJan 16, 8:55am via Twitter for iPhone

#genchat A8 – Can we form #genealogy SWAT Teams that tackles brick walls?
imageancestryjourneyJan 17, 8:55am via TweetDeck

RT @CristaCowan: When trying to find where your immigrant ancestor came from, exhaust all U.S. record resources FIRST. #SLIG #genchat
imageGenealogyGirlJan 16, 8:55am via HootSuite

A8 Find UK & Irish researchers through AGRA, ASGRA & APGI. Many also in APG which has a new British Isles chapter #genchat

imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:56am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

One team per area specialty? RT @one_descendant A8 – Can we form #genealogySWAT Teams that tackles brick walls? #genchat

imageleprchaunrabbitJan 16, 8:59am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

@RTGenealogy Ask here! Put the question out on your Twitter, FB, blog. You’ll get answers Your#genealogy friends are everywhere #genchat

imagelizl_genealogyJan 16, 8:57am via Web@BarbFFm That’s why I recommended checking for newspaper articles first. 🙂 Tons of NYC newspapers on the link I tweeted to you. #genchat

imagekmjordan73Jan 16, 8:59am via TweetChat powered by oneQube

@lizl_genealogy @BarbFFm Search for exact dates in the index at GGG:germangenealogygroup.com/records-search…#genchat

imageBarbFFmJan 16, 9:12am via Web

@SallyOnTheGo @kmjordan73 if you look in Wuerttemberg, the emigration records are online#genchat everyone had to register before they left
imageBarbFFmJan 16, 9:13am via Web

@LatvianRoots they are still under Data Protection (tough laws in GER) and are stored at the Bremen state archive #genchat
imageBarbFFmJan 16, 9:18am via Web

@LatvianRoots Cuxhaven wasn’t actually such an emigration port. Hamburg and Bremerhaven were the ones #genchat
imageBarbFFmJan 17, 9:01am via Web

attended my first #genchat last night. I kept forgetting the tag, it worked quite well after a while. Thanks @ancestryjourney
imageancestryjourneyJan 17, 9:19am via TweetDeck

@BarbFFm It was great fun having you. Pretty sure you are the 1st ever to participate from Germany. Very cool, if you ask me! #genchat
imageleprchaunrabbitJan 17, 4:39am via Twitter for iPhone

This is an experiment: forming #genealogy#SWAT team to break brickwalls (via #genchat) Join @one_descendant & I if you can help out
imageGenealogyInTimeJan 19, 11:55pm via Tweet Button

Follow all the tweets from #RootsTech and#genchat live right heregenealogyintime.com/GenealogyResou… via @GenealogyInTime
imageancestryjourneyJan 22, 2:25pm via Storify

@ancestryjourney You’ve been quoted in my#Storify story “#genchat : geography: Starting Your International Research” sfy.co/bYm5

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About Kerrie Anne Christian

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