#Genchat – The Migration Trail – March 28 2014

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ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:42pm via TweetDeck

#genchat CHALLENGE: Map your families migration around the globe. #genealogy

This could be done on paper, electronically, or using a good old fashioned map and push pins.#genchat

I said, “around the globe” b/c not everyone has US migration to trace. #genchat

Do what is best for the family you are researching or want to work on. #genchat

Create a visual representation of how your family ended up where it did, depending on what you know already. #genchat

#genchat Challenge available on my blog!#genealogy #migrationancestralbreezes.blogspot.com/2014/03/gencha…


AncestryjourneyMar 29, 1:00pm via Nurph

Ok, ya’ll. Everyone ready? We start…. now.#genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:00pm via Nurph

Q1: What routes, or trails, can you think of off the top of your head? #genchat

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:09pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchatA1. Australia many early folks came by boat fr Portsmouth UK, Scotland & Ireland esp convicts- later Bremen & Genoa

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:11pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A1. Australia has lots records on exploration routes, then history of roads being built and also shipping routes

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:13pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A1. Australia’s annual heritage festival is April 14 – May 26 2014 – theme is Journeys

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:00pm via Nurph

Q2: What is there to be learned by studying when a family group traveled? #genchat

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:14pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A2. In Australia some early people came out as convicts after American War of Independence convicts going there

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:16pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A2. Many came fr UK & Ireland to Australia for same reasons others went to USA- escape poverty, Clearances, famine

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:18pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A2. Researching departure shipping ports helps understand what was going on in their country when they left

Q3: How many of you have actually made a map of your ancestral migration? #genchat

A3: I have. But just for one line. #genchat

@ancestryjourney #genchat A3 did map of internal migration in Australia to re-trace in trip last yr ow.ly/v9q0e lotsa rural roads

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:26pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A3 did migration story fr Scotland & China then up Australian coastow.ly/v9q4E ow.ly/v9q7w

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:24pm via TweetDeck

Q4: There are many glorified stories of the migration process itself. How do you determine fact from fiction? #genchat

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:28pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A4 Australia in past many deny their ancestors came as convicts fr UK now free convict records & newspapers online

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:31pm via TweetDeck

Q5: What kind of records exist from those actually on the trail or en route? #genchat

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:33pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A5 Australia free digitised convict, shipping records, Colonial Secretary’s Papers & newspapers, diaries, letters,

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:48pm via Nurph

Q5: What do you want to know about migration? What is your research hang up? #genchat

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:38pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A5. my gt gt g’dad Charles Adams came Australia fr America in 1860’s – no Birth/Death/ship arrival records for him

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:43pm via Hoo

@ancestryjourney #genchat A5 Husband ggdad Thomas Aron Tiearney came Australia fr USA cant find 1860s Ill birth recd ow.ly/v9qza

  ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:36pm via TweetDeck

Q6: What else should you consider beyond migration trails? What about rivers? Railroads?#genchat

SteelyGenesMar 29, 3:48pm via HootSuite

@ancestryjourney #genchat A6. Early Australia mainly by ship so use free on-line shipping recds, newspaper incl obituaries, diaries, letters


AncestryjourneyMar 29, 1:00pm via Nurph

Ok, ya’ll. Everyone ready? We start…. now.#genchat

Q1: What routes, or trails, can you think of off the top of your head? #genchat

TrippinORootsMar 29, 1:05pm via Twubs

a1: Old Wagon Road through the Appalachian Valley. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:05pm via Nurph

Q1, con: Some of you mentioned the eastern states… why do you think the western migration is so prominent? #genchat

thequiltsisterMar 29, 1:06pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A1. Manifest Destiny and then the Gold Rush….#genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:06pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A1 con: The West was open land, the East was crowded. Opportunity, and reasons discussed a fortnight ago #genchat

 KassieLNelsonMar 29, 1:07pm via tchat.io

A1: More people moving within a shorter time frame…ie estimates for Overland Trail, depending on source are about 500K #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:13pm via TweetDeck

RT @HummieIsMe: A1 It is in our very nature to always want something better. They migrated west for something better. #genchat

RoreyCathcartMar 29, 1:07pm via Twubs

A2 con: Don’t forget disease. Rockford IL was settled by swedes fleeing Chicago #genchat

smartfamhistMar 29, 1:08pm via Web

A1 con. My gut is there was room west, but also think about romanticized versions of manifest destiny, frontier, etc. #genchat

LatvianRootsMar 29, 1:09pm via tchat.io

The question on my mind… were these US trails mostly one-way only, or was there a good amount of return traffic as well? #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:10pm via Nurph

Q2: What is there to be learned by studying when a family group traveled? #genchat

TxSGSMar 29, 1:11pm via Nurph

A2: If they were traveling in groups some of the group may have stayed in locations along the way. #genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:11pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2 The Social, financial, health and (possibly) agricultural conditions of the time #genchat

jbron1jonesMar 29, 1:12pm via Twubs

A2. You can perhaps find family that went together, even though you didn’t know they did.#genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:12pm via tchat.io

@TxSGS Or died in locations along the way.#genchat

confusethedeadMar 29, 1:12pm via tchat.io

a2. religion, and jobs, and possible social exile#genchat

MeetyouinOhioMar 29, 1:12pm via Twubs

A2- Why they left, what they may have been looking for #genchat

jbron1jonesMar 29, 1:13pm via Twubs

A2. It also seems they often used names from their old home places. #genchat

ValsRootsMar 29, 1:13pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2: maybe following other family members that went ahead of your line #genchat

smartfamhistMar 29, 1:13pm via Web

A2, economic opportunity, family connections, ethnic connections. #genchat

CherylsTwigsMar 29, 1:13pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Q2: Reasons for relocating; which family members / neighbours went with them and who stayed back #genchat

RoreyCathcartMar 29, 1:13pm via Twubs

A2 religious affiliations ie moving due to persecution. AmrHistory ie gov incentivizing migration to serve purpose or agenda. #genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:13pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2 Some deadbeats left wives and children behind, only to remarry elsewhere #genchat

HistorianaMar 29, 1:14pm via Twubs

A2: Literal, Mr. Obvious answer: Where to go next in the document trail. When they went changes your focal point. #genchat

RoreyCathcartMar 29, 1:14pm via Twubs

A2 Families not previously associated in home state became affiliated during/because of migration. #genchat

jbron1jonesMar 29, 1:14pm via Twubs

The neighbors often went together, it seems. I was tickled to find them in both old/new places.#genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:14pm via Nurph

Q2, con: What is the benefit of researching the route they took? How do you do that? #genchat

gaballisonMar 29, 1:15pm via tchat.io

A2 cont: so you know where to look for more records, or at least have an idea of what records might be available where. #genchat

thequiltsisterMar 29, 1:16pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Q2: Learn more about repositories, records, I discovered paper-trail.org..great resource for the wagon trains to CA.. #genchat

ValsRootsMar 29, 1:16pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2 con: benefit is for records…what route = what records = where to look! #genchat

confusethedeadMar 29, 1:16pm via tchat.io

a2 con… to find what they were looking for, money, land, safe haven..who did they take and who did they leave #genchat

GenealogicsMar 29, 1:16pm via Twitter for iPhone

A2 #genchat “The Great Migration” saw many African-Americans leave the rural South for many industrial jobs and to avoid Jim Crow.

HistorianaMar 29, 1:16pm via Twubs

A2 con: The route is another rich chapter in their story, plus the context of migration along with docs gets rid of research gaps. #genchat

HummieIsMeMar 29, 1:16pm via Tweet Button

#genchat A2: Break down brick walls by comparing where others in group traveled from — think backwards.

thequiltsisterMar 29, 1:17pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2..The website is paper-trail dot org..shortcut didn’t link in my reply.. #genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:17pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A2 con Sometimes the family changes enroute: another child born, a daughter marries and homesteads with husband there #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:17pm via TweetDeck

Lots of links to share tonight. Starting with @CyndisList migration maps.cyndislist.com/migration/maps/

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:18pm via Nurph

Northern US Migration Routes: intl-research.com/images/n

ebig.g… #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:18pm via Nurph

Western US Migration Routes: intl-research.com/images/west.gif #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:18pm via TweetDeck

RT @SKellyGlenn: A2 I alway wondered how my relatives came west in the early 1900. They must have taken the train. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:18pm via TweetDeck

huboutourvilleMar 29, 1:19pm via Twitter for iPhone

A2 I checked with census and siblings. They often followed a family member. And in my case, I look in Catholic church repertoires #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:21pm via Twitter for Android

A2 con You have to follow all leads! Women often migrated with husband’s family. Mother – in laws often migrated with daughters #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:23pm via Twitter for Android

A2 con You extend your research to directories, birth & death records which provide traceback to previous locations or families #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:19pm via TweetDeck

Q3: How many of you have actually made a map of your ancestral migration? #genchat

A3: I have. But just for one line. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:20pm via TweetDeck

YES >> RT @HummieIsMe#genchatmaps.google.com is great for mapping locations and routes. Embed on websites.

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:20pm via TweetDeck

RT @SKellyGlenn: A3 I use the mapping function on Legacy Family Tree, #genchat

kmjordan73Mar 29, 1:20pm via Nurph

Ditto -> RT @genaortega @ancestryjourney A3 I’ve used Google Maps My Places to create a map and share #genchat #genchat

MeetyouinOhioMar 29, 1:20pm via Twubs

A3-I have only pinned surnames and locations, adds up tho #genchat

CarolinaGirlGenMar 29, 1:19pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Love maps. Knowing the routes can help you figure out where your people may have come from. #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:19pm via tchat.io

Altho burials may not have been recorded. Hear they bury their dead & move on. No time or money for markers. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:22pm via Nurph

Studying the African American migration experience: inmotionaame.org/home.cfm #genchat

MeetyouinOhioMar 29, 1:22pm via Twubs

A3- Use Pinterest for ease of use/share #genchat

thequiltsisterMar 29, 1:24pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A3: For Land Plat Maps..I use the BLM website and link with Google Earth for the Public Land Survey Sys.. #genchat

Bevno59Mar 29, 1:25pm via Nurph

A4 check the facts that you can. Stow awy became paid passage ect #genchat

mslaceylooMar 29, 1:25pm via Nurph

@TxSGS The State Historical Society of Missouri has a great selection of plat maps!statehistoricalsocietyofmissouri.org/cdm/landingpag… #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:25pm via Twitter for Android

A3 Using Ancestry, google, & I create my own due to county line shifts as well as townships often located across county lines #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:26pm via Nurph

Pinterest board for #genchat : geographypinterest.com/ancestryjourne… #genchat

CyndisListMar 29, 1:32pm via tchat.io

Map your ancestor’s migration path to determine what states and counties they passed through on their way. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:24pm via TweetDeck

Q4: There are many glorified stories of the migration process itself. How do you determine fact from fiction? #genchat

Bevno59Mar 29, 1:25pm via Nurph

A4 check the facts that you can. Stow awy became paid passage ect #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:26pm via tchat.io

A4 Try to find more than 1 source for the story. More than one diary, other records that may help etc #genchat

confusethedeadMar 29, 1:26pm via tchat.io

A4 check the facts but also be aware not all sources may be true. #genchat

JenBookChickMar 29, 1:27pm via Twitter for iPhone

A4 Read everything with an open mind. Cross check facts with other documents. #genchat

ValsRootsMar 29, 1:28pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A4: And how do you know that historical renditions are correct? reliable? look for all sources, but what if there are none? #genchat

RoreyCathcartMar 29, 1:28pm via Twubs

A4 I look for histories published much closer to the era in question. Less revisionism but have to weight for period perseptions #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:28pm via Twitter for Android

For African American research, you must think outside the box. Use nicknames, job location vice family location. EVERY THE #genchat

HistorianaMar 29, 1:29pm via Twubs

A4: Only use eyewitness accounts that are as close to the event as possible: Time has a way of softening or sharpening the account. #genchat

jbron1jonesMar 29, 1:29pm via Twubs

A4. I think published histories also have to be taken with a grain of salt. Everyone wanted to look good. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:29pm via TweetDeck

A4: I think no matter what the evidence says, I agree w/ @DJoshuaTaylor to document the oral history, too. True or not. #genchat

RoreyCathcartMar 29, 1:30pm via Twubs

A4 Also, as with everything, corroborate as best you can with available records. #genchat

HistorianaMar 29, 1:30pm via Twubs

A4: After all, sometimes the stories can get worse after time has passed: Indian behind every tree, killed a gazillion bears, etc. #genchat

CherylsTwigsMar 29, 1:30pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A4: Read whatever historical resources you can find on that time frame. Then look for where records may have been recorded. #genchat

HummieIsMeMar 29, 1:30pm via Tweet Button

#genchat A4: Oral stories can be half truths exaggerated. Don’t forget to record them anyway. I digital scrapbook them.

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:31pm via tchat.io

I type oral stories as notes into my family tree on Ancestry & software, or put them in my blog about that ancestor. #genchat

samspostingMar 29, 1:31pm via Twitter for iPad

#genchat A4 cont… To clarify, letters from families who were the migrants … Also some from family left behind. (contemporary)

GhyxionMar 29, 1:31pm via tchat.io

@mslaceyloo @ValsRoots I think some of those unconfirmable stories can give other insights into lives and thoughts. #genchat

KassieLNelsonMar 29, 1:33pm via tchat.io

A4: Transcripts of these can be found in state historical society publications- a good number are online. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:31pm via TweetDeck

Q5: What kind of records exist from those actually on the trail or en route? #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:32pm via tchat.io

A5: Diaries or letters from those on the trail. And adult women were the most reliable to write in their journals, with teens next #genchat

JenBookChickMar 29, 1:33pm via Twitter for iPhone

A5 I would say family Bibles, diaries, ledgers…#genchat

GhyxionMar 29, 1:33pm via tchat.io

Q5 – Maybe a stay in jail for “vagrancy” or being an indigent #genchat

RoreyCathcartMar 29, 1:33pm via Twubs

A5 Newspaper accounts, letters, journals/diaries even if not from your ancestor. #genchat

CherylsTwigsMar 29, 1:34pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A5: Diaries, Journals of clergy, Newspapers of towns they traveled through. #genchat

HistorianaMar 29, 1:34pm via Twubs

A5: Survey reports can be quite detailed as to the conditions of the area. Yes, letters, diaries. Even some early newspapers. #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:34pm via tchat.io

We are graced with the presence of a near#genealgy celebrity @CyndisList #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:34pm via TweetDeck

Paper Trail: Overland pioneer names and documents paper-trail.org

CyndisListMar 29, 1:34pm via tchat.io

Migration Routes, Roads & Trailscyndislist.com/migration/ #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:34pm via Twitter for Android

@Genealogics That is certainly true. Few of mine switched counties immediately/ moved across state lines. Very confusing at first. #genchat

gaballisonMar 29, 1:34pm via tchat.io

A5: If only I could find a hidden cache of family papers, bibles, etc… #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:34pm via tchat.io

Yes check with local historical societies, libraries, relatives, museums etc #genchat

KassieLNelsonMar 29, 1:34pm via tchat.io

A5: Cont Plus lots of memoirs, particularly onArchive.org, but I’m weary of memoirs. #genchat

GhyxionMar 29, 1:35pm via tchat.io

A5 – Perhaps some type of business information if a long migration – I expect to find this eventually for my GGF #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:37pm via Twitter for Android

A5 Receipts from purchases of supplies, tax, marriage records & birth records. Some families maintained journals. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:36pm via TweetDeck

Q6: What else should you consider beyond migration trails? What about rivers? Railroads?#genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:37pm via Nurph

American Rivers and Waterways: …pages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gentutor/rive… #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:37pm via Nurph

Locating Railroad Employee Records for#genealogy:genealogytoday.com/guide/railroad… #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:37pm via Nurph

US Migration Trails and Roads (FamilySearch.org)familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/… #genchat

HistorianaMar 29, 1:38pm via Twubs

A6: My family has a few heirlooms categorized as: “Came down the river on a flatboat” or “Came across the mountains.” #genchat

MeetyouinOhioMar 29, 1:40pm via Twubs

Have to run, here is some Pinterest map helpnelsonrainsgenealogy.blogspot.com/2014/01/7-tips… #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:46pm via Twitter for Android

A6 Definitely rivers! Many towns/communities centered around rivers. Rivers lead to waterman, fishermen, & our families. #genchat

FranEllsworthMar 29, 1:48pm via Web

A6 rivers played a huge roll in many of my ancestors’ migrations.. a few by steamship on the Atlantic going up and down the coast. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:42pm via TweetDeck

#genchat CHALLENGE: Map your families migration around the globe. #genealogy

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:43pm via TweetDeck

This could be done on paper, electronically, or using a good old fashioned map and push pins.#genchat

gaballisonMar 29, 1:44pm via tchat.io

I love it when the challenge is something I was planning to do anyway! More excuses to play around on pinterest… #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:44pm via TweetDeck

I said, “around the globe” b/c not everyone has US migration to trace. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:44pm via TweetDeck

Do what is best for the family you are researching or want to work on. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:44pm via TweetDeck

Create a visual representation of how your family ended up where it did, depending on what you know already. #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:46pm via TweetDeck

And my discovered-today-blog thanks to @FamilyStories ‘s #needtoknow…ealogythroughgoogleearth.blogspot.com#genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:47pm via Nurph

Take advantage of the many tools online. Blog it. Pinterest. Create a digital map. Whatever.#genchat CHALLENGE #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:47pm via tchat.io

I did locate my March ancestor on maps today, so almost mapped her migration. Anyone see my blog: geniebeth.blogspot.com ?? #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:48pm via Nurph

Q5: What do you want to know about migration? What is your research hang up? #genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:49pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A5 How could they afford to travel? When they didn’t have much to begin with? #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:50pm via tchat.io

A5 con: Oxen were cheap to buy & feed, they had 1 extra set of clothes, & then food & wagon.#genchat

A5 How did the choose and/or know about their destination? Newspapers? Word of mouth? Just go and choose as you go? #genchat

CarolinaGirlGenMar 29, 1:51pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A5 For some of my lines it’s trying to get back to the person who migrated. I keep going back a generation in the same area! #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:51pm via Nurph

Passenger lists on @findmypastsearch.findmypast.com/search/world-r…#genchat

GenealogicsMar 29, 1:51pm via Twitter for iPhone

A5 #genchat Finding the $50 to order their Homestead Act file.

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:51pm via Nurph

a5, I’m always fascinated to find newspaper articles advertising new towns, new locations.#genchat

kmjordan73Mar 29, 1:51pm via Nurph

@SparrowBeth73 I’ve got towns in Italy, Germany and Sweden. The Irish is my only line still stuck in the US. 😦 #genchat

SparrowBeth73Mar 29, 1:51pm via tchat.io

A5: Destination probably by word of mouth, others who were already there, following neighbors, friends family etc #genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:52pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

A5 con, I believe many followed the masses. They knew someone leaving, and left w/them #genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 1:52pm via Nurph

A5: Railroad companies made guide books, greatly exaggerated, to get ppl to settle on their land. #genchat

leprchaunrabbitMar 29, 1:52pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

RT @jbron1jones Sir Leprechaunrabbit Perhaps they sold what they had, bought a wagon, supplies and prayed for the best? #genchat

KassieLNelsonMar 29, 1:52pm via tchat.io

@ancestryjourney @leprchaunrabbit Sometimes they ‘went in with’ others, formed partnerships and what not. #genchat

DanteEubanksMar 29, 1:53pm via Twitter for Android

A5/A How did they decide who traveled first? Why did some family members/families stay behind?#genchat

CarolinaGirlGenMar 29, 1:54pm via TweetChat powered by oneQube

Newspapers can be a good source of why or where someone might leave. Adds were put in for work or land or party’s going west #genchat

samspostingMar 29, 1:54pm via Safari on iOS

#genchat @CarolinaGirlGen You might be interested in my Wanderlust family …#52Ancestors Story #12.tracingsbysam.com/52stories.html

DanteEubanksMar 29, 2:00pm via Twitter for Android

Awesome #genchat with everyone! Always remember Collaboration, communication, & support! It is vital to our community & our research!

FindYourPastMar 29, 2:05pm via twitterfeed

Tip of the day – Iceberg Genealogy bit.ly/1dBHwQr#genchat

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 2:16pm via TweetDeck

#genchat Challenge available on my blog!#genealogy #migrationancestralbreezes.blogspot.com/2014/03/gencha…

ancestryjourneyMar 29, 2:28pm via Web

@CyndisList plus.google.com/u/0/+One-place…

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About Kerrie Anne Christian

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